that vaccinates against four strains, the four strain is thought to be more valuable for children and either one should give you plenty of protecctectp. if you are allergic to eggs, there's a vaccine for you as well. stay connected with me at cnn.com/sanjay and keep the conversation going on twitttwitte twitter @sanjaygupta. time to get you back to the "newsroom" with don lemon. welcome back, everyone, to our live coverage. i'm don lemon. you are in the "cnn newsroom." there is the building behind me. the clock is ticking. we're inching closer and closer to a government shut down at the capital, this could happen midnight on monday unless a sharply divided congress can cut

a budget deal soon. right now the ball is in the house's court. the house is set to vote later today on a republican spending bill that would add controversial measures to undermine obama care. the plan includes a one-year delay on fully implementing obama care and a repeal of a new tax on medical devices that would help fund obama care. any house gop plan faces almost certain death in the senate. senate democratic leader harry reid has said any bill that would change obama care is absolutely unacceptable. we have got this story covered from every angle. we have complete coverage for you on this shutdown struggle. chief congressional correspondent dana bash is in washington. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is in washington. our chief political analyst gloria borger is in washington as well. we've got you covered here. dana, we'll talk to you first. so, we expect this to pass the house tonight, but the big question is, what will the senate do and when? what are your sources telling you about this? >> the senate majority leader

harry reid released a statement just a couple hours ago saying that he is confident the senate will reject what the house does and i'm told by a senior democratic leadership source they'll not come back to take it up to reject it until monday. they're not scheduled to come back until monday. they won't, you know, change that schedule to come back on sunday, tomorrow. so, we're talking about really hours before the end of the fiscal year, hours before the government is technically set to shut down that the senate will even come back. now, let me read you what of harry reid said in his statements. senate democrats said they are willing to debate a wide range of issues including efforts to improve the affordable care act. we continue to be willing to debate this in a calm and rational atmosphere, but the american people will not be extorted by tea party anarchi anarchists. >> i had john boehner's letter here. explain to us really what is

behind this new plan. they want to delay the health care for one year, right? and other things. >> the idea is this, john boehner had to attach something or things to this spending bill in order to make sure that he had the votes within his republican caucus because they wanted to keep fighting. the fact that they didn't get the full defunding of obama care didn't stop them, so they picked these issues because on delaying obama care they say that the president himself has already delayed some things, but on the medical device tax repeal, they specifically picked that, don, because it's something that got very broad democratic support earlier this year on a nonbi nonbinding vote, so they're trying for lack of a better way to say it put democrats in a box and in a bind in the senate because they say that they voted on this before and many senators have some important interests in their states that make these

medical devices so they think it will be hard for them to vote no but i'm told by a democratic source that they have counted the votes, they've talked to some of the squishy democrat senators and they feel confident that they're going to be able to reject them. >> they're trying to co-opt them to win them over to their side, put them in a box you said. >> exactly. want to go to the white house here, president obama has promised not to sign any legislation that would defund obama care. jim acosta is standing by now. what is the president's strategy at this point? >> reporter: don, i think the white house strategy at this point is to keep the president away, far, far away from what is happening on capitol hill, that's why you saw the president out playing golf in northern virginia earlier today, and as you said, don, the president has said time and again administration officials have said time and again he's not going to sign anything that delays or defunds obama care. he's not going to allow anything that tinkers with the health care law under the threat of a government shutdown or default on the nation's debt and he's

said this twice in the last 24 hours. let's see if you see a pattern. here's what he had to say in the last 24 hours. >> as i said before if republicans have specific ideas on how to genuinely improve the law rather than gut it, rather than delay it, rather than repeal it, i'm happy to work with them on that through the normal democratic processes, but that will not happen under the threat of a shut down. i will work with anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about our economic future, but i will not negotiate over congress' responsibility to pay the bills it has already racked up. i don't know how to be more clear about this. no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the united states of america just to extract ideological concessions. >> reporter: there's the pattern there, in three words, no, no, no. now in the last few seconds, don, we received a statement from white house press secretary jay carney, i'll read it to you

because we don't have time to put it in a graphic. it's quite lengthy. at the top it said today republicans and the house of representatives moved to shut down the government. congress has two jobs to do pass the budget and pay bills it has racked up. republicans in congress had the opportunity to pass a routine, simple continuing resolution that keeps the government running for a few more weeks but instead republicans decided they would rather make an ideological point by demanding the sabotage of the health care law, it goes on longer than that, don, and certainly we put that in graphic form and present it to you later. but that gives you the white house point of view at this point. whatever comes out of the house, if it's not a clean as they say here in washington, clean cr, clean continuing resolution, without the other obama care provisions attached to it, it's a nonstarter. it's not happening here, don. >> oh, boy. oh, boy. we're in for it. thank you, jim. we'll get back to you. thank you, dana, as well. a lot of americans have strong opinions about obama care

including cnn i-reporters, one is drew winter, he lives in delaware. he says he's hopeful the law will take effect. >> we've been very hopeful that obama care will be implemented and give us the opportunity to get a free ride or free insurance or have everything paid for, you know, but health care costs are astronomical. they are financially out of reach for most hard working americans. >> okay. well, william bernstein says not so fast. he also sent us a video explaining why he's against the new health care law. >> number one, i'm william, so here's the deal. i've not had health insurance since 2007. that's when i stopped working full time, now since then i've had many part-time jobs. right now i do piano playing for events and churches and i work at the shipping company right here part time and i do

freelance news reporting and storm chasing part time, that's the key words, part time means no health insurance and come january me and other americans will be forced to do and to pay for obama care? i don't think so. obama care is unconstitutional and needs to be overturned. and maybe it's going to take my voice and millions of others to do that and if that's what it's going to take, then so be it. >> well, there you go. if you don't currently have health insurance, so we want to hear your story. logon to cnnireport.com and sha share your video. this will impact everyone in the u.s. in some way. you can find out more at cnn.com/healthcare. the government shutdown isn't lawmakers' only worry. that's not the only thing they're worried about i should say. come mid-october the u.s. will hit the debt ceiling. what happens then? we'll explain the possibilities to you.

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i'm, like, totally not down with change. but i had to change to bounce dryer bars. one bar freshens more loads than these two bottles. i am so gonna tell everyone. [ male announcer ] how do you get your bounce? [ woman ] time for change! another washington shutdown or showdown i should say waiting in the wings. the need to raise the nation's debt ceiling so the government can pay all of its bills. treasury secretary jack liu said the limit must be increased by october 17th or the nation could be technically in default.

severe economic impact would occur if the united states fails to meet the debt obligations. i want to go to our chief political analyst gloria borger who joins us from washington. is it shaping up to be an even bigger battle? >> i think it is. it's sort of hard to imagine that we're having these two battles almost at the same time. first of all the notion that the government should well and now looks likely to shut down. and secondly, that in a few weeks in mid-october there's also the disstect possibility that the credit card's going to run out and that we won't be able to pay our bills and what that really means to americans is not federal workers being furloughed which is bad enough on the government shutdown, but your social security checks, your medicare payments not going to happen. and so -- and also some economists say you could sink in a recession not unlike the one

we had in 2008-2009. globally this would have a huge impact. so, i think the question that the debt ceiling is such a large problem looming over all of this and how it turns out really depends on how they resolve this issue over the government shutdown. >> we were having this conversation, very similar conversation, not so long ago about the debt ceiling. >> right. >> and then the severity of it, so how serious is it for the country if there is a default? >> it's usually serious. social security checks, medicare, recession, you know, you talk to economists about this and they sort of shake their heads. and, you know, don't forget, and you remember this, because you were there covering it alongside me, that we went through this a couple of years ago. with the debt ceiling. we got downgraded, our credit rating in this country, because of the debt ceiling issue. and here we are back at it

again. you know, coming on the heels of a government shutdown. so, you know, this really isn't any way to do business and what you have is the president of the united states basecically sayin that paying america's bills is not a concession to him. paying america's bills is actually what america ought to be doing. so, he's saying to republicans if you think it's a concession to me, you know, you're barking up the wrong tree here. that he's not going to negotiate over obama care when it comes to the debt ceiling either just like he's not going to do it in regards to the government shutdown. >> all right, gloria borger will be with us throughout the evening. gloria, lots questions for you and you'll answer them as best as possible i'm sure. some of them you won't know the answers to because this is pretty unprecedented, right? >> it is. it is. >> we'll see you in a bit, gloria, thank you. we'll bring you more on the government shutdown later in the

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updating a story that we've been following for you a former high school teacher is free after serving just one month in jail for raping a 14-year-old girl who later committed suicide, stacey dean rambold was released thursday from a montana jail. police are furious about the lenient sentence and the judge's comments that the victim was older than her chronological age and as much in control of the situation as was the defendant. prosecutors in billings, montana, are appealing the sentence to the state supreme court. we'll continue to update you on that story. it's a rivalry as old as baseball itself but this week the century-long tension between the dodgers and the giants

turned deadly. and we'll see how the reevelry between the two teams has spilled off the field. >> reporter: fan rivals can be intense leading to all-out brawls like this one at a san francisco 49ers and oakland raiders game. and men aren't the only ones fighting. this happened at an l.a. clippers/utah jazz basketball game. the latest rivalry is between the san francisan francisco giae los angeles dodgers. >> i saw swinging and yelling and the arms started flying. and i looked and i saw a person lying on the ground. >> reporter: police say it happened a few hours after wednesday night's game, a 24-year-old jonathan denver was stabbed and killed wearing dodgers clothes, this picture taken with his father, a dodger security guard. >> the fact that anybody got in any sort of a beef over the

giants and the dodgers and somebody lost their life it's senseless. >> reporter: a 21-year-old suspect was arrested and charged with homicide. investigators say he was part of a group that wasn't even at the game. it's not clear yet how the fight started. two years ago the rivalry led to the beating of a 42-year-old paramedic and father. giants fan bryan stow was critically injured when he was attacked by two dodgers fan. he suffered brain damage and will never fully recover. experts say fights like this are usually fueled by alcohol. >> when you combine passion for your sports team, too much to drink, and too many people, you've got a recipe for disaster. >> reporter: san francisco's police chief has a message for fans everywhere -- >> just be respectful of each other when you go to these games and, remember, it's a game. >> reporter: dan simon, cnn, san francisco. >> we are not finished with this story yet. just ahead we'll look at the

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rivalry between fans of the dodgers and the giants. want to bring in criminal defense attorney holy hughes and behavior expert wendy walsh. first to you, holly,se is self-defense a good argument? >> they are trying to determine who was the initial aggressor who started the fight. we know the young man who has been released told people i was hit in the head with a chair first and then and only then did i defend myself. a chair can be a deadly weapon, you know, he can be stand with it. he can receive grave bodily injury and that's why the police and the prosecutor's office to date have said we need to interview more people and get independent witnesses because obviously he's going to say self-defense and obviously the victim's friends are going to say, no, our friend didn't start it, he did. >> what if it was self-defense, does it mean he's completely off the hook? >> no. it means it will go to a trial and if they determine ahead of

time there's absolutely no probable cause there's no issue of fact for a jury to decide on, he may not be charged. but typically in these cases what we'll see a charge will be brought and the defense at that trial will raise self-defense and let the members of the jury decide just like we saw in the zimmerman case not look ago. >> got you. got you. as you saw in dan simon's story, this isn't the first time something like this has happened and sadly it probably won't be the last time. what influences this type of altercation, alcohol has a lot to do it, right? >> alcohol has a big piece. holly gave you the legal lesson and let me tell you the anthropological lesson, it's the hunter gatherer past. men, of course, don't have to go out and protect women and children and fight with mar rauding males to protect their resources, instead they live vicariously in the stands, the

police officer said, remember, it's a game, you have to intellectually process you are not in the hunt at that moment. you add alcohol on top of it and it makes it harder to separate from the vicarious nature of the game you've just been through and secondly when you have groups of men, you know, i'd rather be accosted by one man than one man in front of another if he's his buddy because he's going to try to impress the more men around they'll align themselves in a hierarchy. so, it seems like all -- it was a perfect storm of negative things to happen to this terrible, terrible story for this young man. >> gosh, men, men -- >> oh, but we love them, don. >> let's move on to the case, though, of a 16-year-old in nevada who's been charged as an adult with two counts of murder. the victim his own mother. and brother. holly, a manhunt is under way to find the teen who was initially thought to be a victim of of this gruesome crime. he was apprehended on wednesday.

is that going to play a part in this case, holly? >> well, yes, it's what we call indicia of guilt. when you flee a scene -- >> say that again. a what? >> it's called the indicia of guilt, like, an indicator of guilt, if you flee the prosecutor is able to argue to the jury that that indicates that you were guilty and that's why you were running away. we know from the police reports that have been released, not only has the mother multiply stabbed but the little brother was stabbed and left in the batht bathtub. there's evidence that this young man stayed in the apartment with the bodies for anywhere from one to two or three days and then they caught him and when they caught him, he was out at a food court having a snack. not running away. not hiding just like nothing had gone wrong, so, yes, this is absolutely going to be argued at trial that his fleeing the scene, not reporting the crime,

and the callusness of it, they are going to say he's guilty of the crime. >> police believe the teen continued living in the unit with the bodies as holly said for days. what does that tell you? >> well, holly can comment certainly from a legal stand point because he didn't actually, you know, murder and then flee at that moment saying, oh, my goodness, i've done something terrible. he hung out there and it tells me that he probably had an emerging mental illness, a teenage time is the time when onset of things like schizophrenia can take over, so i would definitely want to see a full psych work-up on this young man before the legal proceedings happen. >> wendy, holly, thanks as always. republicans set to vote on a new spending bill but it's got virtually no chance to pass the senate. we'll put politics aside and head to hollywood. am don lemon. could you get off your phone.

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the house set to vote later tod today on republican spending plan that would include controversial measures to undermine obama care and it includes a one year delay from

fulliplementing it and an appeal on new tax that would help fund it. any house gop plan faces almost certain death in the senate. senate democratic leader harry reid has said any bill that would change obama care is unacceptable unless there is a budget deal by midnight on monday. the government would shut down. so, if that house bill passes, it will be dead on arrival in the senate so why are republicans doing this? let's talk now to our cnn political commentator and democratic strategist maria cardona and also there is ben ferguson. ben, why? why put the american people through all of this if it's all for naught? >> because we don't have a dictatorship in this country. barack obama said when he ran for president the first and the second time that his job was to find consensus and compromise. then this week he says i refuse to negotiate with the republicans. and then to make sure that

everyone knows he refuses to negotiate, he goes and plays golf today while the government's about to shut down. >> ben, ben -- >> yes. >> -- answer my question, come on, if it's all for naught why put the american people through this? answer the question. >> because, again, when you're the president of the united states of america, you're supposed to work with congress. and when harry reid and when dan pfeiffer at the white house says that the republicans are acting like terrorists that have bombs strapped to their bodies like some sort of suicide bomber that's not being in the spirit of compromise and the majority of the american people -- >> ben -- >> let me say this, though -- >> i know you are going to say the majority of the people don't want it, i get that, i'm talking about shutting down the government. obama care because you are attaching it to shutting down the government which does not make sense to most people including most republicans. hear me out here, so then why not do -- listen, ben, why not do what the president said.

if you have issues with obama care, work with me, tell me what they are, i am more than willing to work with you, do not shut down the government. >> don, give me one example of when barack obama in his last five years plus in office has ever worked with republicans about obama care. >> i'm not here to defend president obama. >> i can do it. >> there are zero times when he's done that. the blair house is a great example. when he had a republican at the table and he pretty much looked at him and said i won, you lost, i got the house and the senate, i don't have to play with you. i don't have to listen to any of your concerns and he's continued to have that mindset ever since then so if you are a republican you don't have any other options right now. >> we'll not continue to hog the conversation. but it sounds like mine, then yours. that's what that sounds like. go ahead, maria. >> so, here's where my friend ben is completely wrong. the president has always been willing to negotiate with republicans. let's remember he was the one --

>> when? >>-- who did not walk away three times from a grand bargain. it was john boehner when he was slapped by the tea party caucus because he was negotiating with president obama and then john boehner said i will not negotiate with president obama again. on this specific point, the president has been very clear. if republicans have good ideas about how to implement the affordable care act better or if they have ideas on how to make it work better, i am open to listening and to working with them. but not if it is -- >> no, he's not. >> -- tied to a government shutdown that will hurt average american families. it will hurt our military. it will hurt our seniors. it will hurt our children and not as long as it is attached to a bill that will fund the government into a default. that's just the way it is. >> go ahead, ben. >> when obama care was being written republicans were shut out of the meetings to write that bill -- >> oh, ben, ben.

>> -- they didn't let us in. that is a fact and you know that's true and nancy pelosi -- hold on, hold on. >> i have to clarify this, i have to clarify this -- >> let him finish and i'll let you clarify and then we'll move on. >> the affordable care act -- >> let him finish. mat maria, let him finish and then i'll let you go. ben, go on. >> nancy pelosi said they lost, we're in charge, we get to write the bill how we want to. does that sound like compromise? the american people know it, too, they don't like obama care. the majority of americans don't like it. >> ben, that is the truth though whether you agree with her or not, but they did win and they get to decide because they're the majority. but go ahead. >> it's true. but do you know what else is the truth, the health care exchanges and the individual mandate, two key parts of obama care, guess whose ideas they were? they were republican ideas hatched out of the heritage foundation.

they just don't like it now because -- >> not true. >> -- because president obama is the one that is proposing them in addition the majority of americans don't want obama care repealed. they want to give it a chance to work. >> we're going to put you both in your separate corners and we're going to have you back. you'll be back here just in a couple of minutes on cnn, so stand by, guys. >> thanks, don. >> appreciate it. all right, up next -- the president of iran back home after making history at the u.n. u.n. but shoes are already

well, at the united nations today another full day of one world leader after another at the podium and it's called the general debate. presidents, prime ministers and heads of state get a few minutes each to address a u.n. general assembly. it's been going on all day every day since tuesday, and no other world loader makes a splash in new york this will be known as the year of iranian's president rouhani. this is rouhani's rather enth e enthusiastic return home after history making few days in new york. he said things about the holocaust that his predecessor never would. he told the american people he was all about peace and friendship, oh, yeah, he and president obama spoke on the telephone. first direct contact between

iran and the united states at that level in almost 35 years. nick payton walsh is here right now. nick, you're getting to be a regular here. you've been on the u.n. beat all week. iran's president, something of a rock star when he left here. so, what's -- what should we make of all this? >> i think it's a sign that there's a need for some sort of change in iran's policy. a lot of people inside iran, you saw the reception he got there, there was a shoe thrown at him, but that was from the minority in many ways. sanctions are making life there misery. >> is he on board with the u.n.? >> he said he's got the full backing of the supreme council of the ayatollah, he couldn't have made a move like that ringing barack obama without that kind of backing. the real issue now then we've had the positive messages and had him set a different tone on the holocaust and he was toning down the usual rhetoric from

ahmadinejad last year when he gave his speech but the question is what practically comes next. unlikely to have had a phone call between two presidents of that level if the white house didn't know there was something concrete on the table but we don't know what it is, what they'll do about the nuclear program. >> what do we do after the celebrations are over, how do we measure if there's any progress from these overtures and promises from rouhani? >> well, there are talks in the middle of october and talks at the end of october. that's about concretely working out what are they actually going to do about it. the west wants to see them have access to peaceful nuclear energy technology but then you have to work out does that mean they can still enrich uranium which could be used to make a nuclear bomb. how much level of inspections are they going to commit inside. the white house don't have many other choices with iran, they are speeding to a nuclear weapon and they don't have a juice for another war in that region. >> we talked about the phone call between rouhani and president barack obama, if that

went so well, are we looking about a face-to-face meeting between them in the future? >> we had the face to face meeting with john kerry and his counterpart, just like the phone call was deeply symbolic, too, and rouhani said i didn't get a chance to do the handshake because things moved too fast, they wanted to be sure the results were there. but he said that could happen down the line, the phone call is a precursor and they are waiting to see what concrete they'll get from tehran. >> there are americans who are detained right now in iran. that is certainly to be a roadblock in this diplomatic process. >> certainly. there's so many things iran could do. we heard reports today that perhaps they've switched outside news media back on in iran. the internet under heavy censorship. hundreds of political prisoners, this isn't a country in any condition like america would normally want to deal with it, the military option simply isn't there and they are speeding toward a nuclear weapon say

their doves and hawks, and this level of diplomacy is working so far and people are waiting to see what is the concrete step they are willing to take. >> can we talk about the shoe being thrown? >> yeah. >> that is one of the most disrespectful things you can do in that country, is that correct? >> as well as showing your feet to the soul of your feet. one of them threw a shoe because the shoe is connected to the ground and the lowest part of the body and you are in effect throwing dirt at somebody, this is basically showing there's not universal delight at what rouhani did, many more iranians are pleased at the idea of sanctions being eased than they are upset that row han rouhani rang obama. the big dog and his dog pound are back. arsenio hall returns to late night television and he finally

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there's no explanation. i don't deserve it. no one deserves the kind of life i've had. i'm not more talented than anybody else. but yet here i am with don lemon on cnn in my studio bringing back my talk show. >> here's arsenio hall! >> i obviously did this once and now here i am again. as a kid, i set up folding chairs in a basement in cleveland and did this. i don't know whether that's self-visualization but i've been allowed to live my dream. other than my kid this is the only thing i've ever loved. well, there are a couple women right now who are -- but it's the only thing i've ever loved and i get to do it. that's the greatest thing in the world. i wake up every day without an

alarm clock. i don't care whether i have 6:00 a.m. radio on the east coast or an 8:30 writers' meeting, my eyes open at the exact right time without an alarm clock because i love my life. >> there are few people who are in this business who i believe should be doing exactly what they are doing. you are one of those people, right? to get to that point, it takes a lot of struggle. it ain't easy. >> oh, yeah. i mean, wow, you know how this business is. it's a complicated, fickle business. you never please anybody. that's why i try to please myself. the first time around, i was younger and i didn't know how to deal with some of that. it's real hard. >> wait, wait, wait, what do you mean you were young and didn't know how to deal with it? talk about that. >> well, you know, gosh, i remember a game, a trivial

pursuit game and i wasn't aware of this. friends of mine were playing at a party and one of the questions was, who did spike lee call uncle tom? i had no idea i was the answer. that's a game that's there forever. that's a game one day my son might play somewhere. i also -- >> does that bother you to be called that? >> let me give you the full spectrum. probably wouldn't bolt l bother me if i could look someplace and find love. you sit in a meeting and white people think you are too black. there are points in the business and you feel, who am i doing it for? you don't like me and you don't like me. i got paper, i'm going home. i always plan on doing it like jim brown. i was going to leave when i was on top. at that point, i left.

>> do you regret that ever? >> no. >> come on, tell the truth. >> i don't regret it because what's going on right now is an unbelievable chapter to be able to write. to come back and america allows me, that's amazing. >> it sounds to me like you were really hurt. you were wounded. >> i just gotta have an audience. i didn't know who it was anymore. >> you have so many yes people around. >> yes people and that's another great thing about leaving this business and coming back and getting in, as i have. you learn a lot about people who you know. >> right. >> it's a wonderful blessing. my absence is a wonderful blessing. i don't have to play with them now. i can just, no, no, no, i know who you are. go. go. i ain't heard from you. like, there was a day my phone

rang. i picked it up and it was mariah car carey. i can't have a show. i said hello, hi. she said i was just checking on you. i shook the phone. what? i don't have a show and you got more money than me. she can write. >> you were there for her. you brought her to the national audience. >> but it shocked me because i'm in this town. it shocked me that somebody called me and wanted to see how i was doing. your phone doesn't ring unless people need you in hollywood. >> billy holiday said money you have friends. when it's gone, they don't come around anymore, right? >> absolutely. i am more mature and able to understand this time around, if you are happy, keep doing it until they shut the lights off. >> how long can you do it? >> wow. how long can i do it?

this time i'm doing it as long as spike lee wants me. >> you want to explain that? >> well, you know, he's -- how do you explain spike lee? one of those people you look at and say brother, it's negativity. let's not even give it a second. >> ahh. very proud of you arsenio. next hour, he talks to me about growing up dirt poor and how it's affected him becoming the dad that he is today. he is a 15-year-old who helped more than -- us real multigrains equals real delicious! quaker real medleys, your on-the-go burst of goodness! quaker up.

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let's meet this week's cnn hero. he's helped 10,000 children by providing a basic necessity. >> september is back to school and for most kids, it means back to school shopping. i used to take those things for granted, until i realize add lot of kids didn't have those luxuries. i remember my first shelter visit, seeing kids who were just like me. the only difference is they had footwear falling apart. >> i was nervous going back to school. my shoes were old and too small for me. >> when i lost my job, i had to decide whether to spend money on shoes, medicine or diapers. >> kids get blisters on their feet because they have to wear whatever shoes they can get.

it just wasn't right. my name is nicholas, i'm 15 and i give new shoes to kids living in homeless shelters across the country. my family's garage is filled with boxes of new shoes. shelters send us orders with the kids name, genter, shoe size. i have donated new sneakers to 10,000 kids in 21 states. >> thank you. >> homeless children shouldn't worry about how they will be accepted or fit in. it's more than just giving them a new pair of shoes. i'm helping kids be kids. their self-esteem goes up. their attitude from life changes. it's really what makes it so special for me. >> we are closely watching the house. we are in reality hours away

from a government shutdown. the house will vote sometime tonight. we are standing by for that. we have team coverage. the next hour of cnn news room starts right now. thank you for joining us. i'm don lemon. we are watching the clock. we are watching washington. you are in the cnn news room. the clock is ticking and we are getting closer and closer to a government shutdown. this could happen at midnight on monday unless congress can cut a budget deal and do it soon. right now, the ball is in the house's court. it is to vote this evening at anytime on a republican spending bill to add controversial spending measure that is undermines obama care. fully implement the president's health care plan and a repeal of a tax on medical devices that help fund it. any house